How I Met God in the Middle of Meth and Metal

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– Hey, I'm Brian Tome, senior pastor at Crossroads.

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Welcome, glad you're with us today.

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Today, we're going to have Brian Head Welch

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from the band Korn talk about meth, metal and Jesus.

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You might go, "Korn? Heavy metal? Meth?

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What is that all about?"

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This is part of what I love about Brian.

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He's been a friend of mine for years.

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And part of what I love about today.

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We want to strip away the religiosity.

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We want to stop just saying the nice things

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that people in church are supposed to say.

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We want to talk about things that are real,

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things are in our lives in a way

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that normal people do on their back deck.

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That's what we're going to do today

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to try to get you and I to a new place.

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Brian's a great friend.

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He's got some good stuff for us.

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Let's get started.

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– You're on.

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– Special guest to the stage, please.

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Special guest to the stage.

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– Is this thing on?

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– I had friends who invited me

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to have dinner with you a few years ago,

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and it was great.

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We've downed a lot of calories together,

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a lot of calories.

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And they said, "Well, he has this documentary out."

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And I'm kind of a documentary buff.

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– Me, too.

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– But I wasn't all that excited about it,

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because I knew ahead of time it was going to talk

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about your coming to Christ.

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And Christian documentaries,

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"Christian documentaries" tend to not inspire me.

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What I saw was not a Christian documentary.

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It was a documentary where Christ

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was through the whole thing and I was blown away.

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I mean, I'm talking very, very deeply moved.

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And it just made me look forward

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to having that first dinner with you.

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And I'm just excited for people here Crossroads

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to get to know you,

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hopefully get engaged with your movie.

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Just give us a little snippet of your life.

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Not that we want to let the cat out of the bag

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about your documentary, but just tell us,

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who is Brian Head Welch?

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You've got a big head, Keith.

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– That's exactly --

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– What is that head thing about. What are you Head Welch for?

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– That's why, because my head grew before my body

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when I was 14 and everybody else was taller than me,

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but my head was bigger than theirs,

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puberty, that puberty thing.

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So they started calling me Head because

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I was disproportionate and everything.

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And so it was a -- it was a troubling nickname

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when I was a kid, but when I was in the band,

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we wanted nicknames in our early 20s.

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We're still kids.

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"Didn't they used to call you Head?"

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I was like, "Yeah, let's go with that."

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You know, I wasn't very creative,

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so I just went backwards.

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But, you know, I just -- I just --

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My life, I wanted to be, we talked about earlier,

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AC/DC, I got the album Back in Black

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and I put it on and I heard,

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"Back in black, I hit the sack."

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And I was like, I heard the guitar

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and I just want to do that.

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This is what I want to do.

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10 years old, I knew what I wanted to do.

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And so I went for it and I achieved it.

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And we'll get into the story,

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but I suffered self-hatred and depression

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since I was a kid, and I think the music

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was like what I hung on to to make me

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feel better about myself because I got good at it.

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And so it just made me feel like I was better

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than the person I looked and I saw in the mirror.

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Know that I -- and so I hung on to that.

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And then when I got in front of, you know,

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sold millions of records, got in front of

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all these thousands of people, I was insecure.

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And so I always wanted to be masking a love,

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you know, kind of like overshadowed

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the self-hatred and the addictions and everything

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and started making me process.

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Not that I got clean

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and got my life figured out right away,

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but it started, the seed was planted in like,

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"Oh, you can't be like this forever.

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Now you have someone that needs to look up to you

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and you need to be there for."

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So it started, you know, took a few years,

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but that seed was planted.

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– I wonder what the rejection you've said

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that you felt, the self-hatred, the bullying,

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right around that time when Jennea, your wife left you,

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did that feel you like another way

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that women didn't like you, or is that another

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sense of form of rejection that hit you deeply?

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What did that do for your spiritual journey?

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– That -- hat parts?

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– When your marriage dissolved?

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– Oh, wow.

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So my first girlfriend, the first real girlfriend,

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two years know we were together, we had

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a great, great relationship early on,

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then that self-hatred and alcoholism

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kind of kicked in around that time, too.

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It made me, once I knew that she was--

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I believed that she loved me,

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then I got comfortable.

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And the anger that I had towards myself,

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I put it onto her and I started treating her bad.

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Anyway, long story short, I got my heart broken.

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Man, I'm a feeler. I feel deep.

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And even though I messed up and I couldn't,

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like, keep the relationships going,

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I couldn't treat people, especially girls,

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like I wanted to, I felt it big time and got suicidal.

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And so I stayed single for a while,

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then and I met my wife, who would be my wife.

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And we were off and on for a while.

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But yeah, when she got pregnant

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and we wanted to make this family work, you know,

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and be this married couple that could just

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have at least semi happy.

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But when she left me, the divorce,

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that was another just blow.

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It seemed like I was always the one

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just to stay in the relationship,

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even if it was misery. I don't know why.

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But it was only two real relationships,

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but both of them left me.

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And so when my ex-wife left me, she, you know,

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she was broken, she was a hurting soul.

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She ran away at 14 because of just family issues.

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So, yeah, that was devastating,

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but mainly because she left her daughter. You know?

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She did want to take her daughter with her,

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but she was with some gang bangers, you know?

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And I have high powered lawyers.

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I can't -- I wanted her in her mom's life,

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but I couldn't let her, "Oh, take your daughter."

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I cannot let these felons around my daughter.

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There's going to be some kind of abuse

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whether it's physical, sexual, or something.

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So I had to protect her. You know?

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And so I just did what --

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I manned up and did what I could do.

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And I tried to keep her in her life,

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you know, supervised,

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but she went off the deep end, unfortunately.

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– I think that's what I love about your story,

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your documentary, it's very real, it's very raw.

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You're very respectful to your ex-wife

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in the documentary, but the language that

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you allow your bandmates to use in talking about Christians,

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which is very negative in the beginning

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part of the documentary, the level of brokenness

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and despair you allow people to see in your life

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is quite frankly, exhilarating for me, exhilarating.

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It seems like the longer I'm a follower of Christ,

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the more I'm supposed to have everything together.

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And there is a level of you do spiritually mature

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and you do figure out life

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and you get closer with God

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and you don't step in the same potholes

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as you did when you were 16 or 26.

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But you just ripped the mask off of that.

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You're just like, "Here's my life,

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here's what God's done for me."

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And you're talking about your wife

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and your daughter just reminds you of that.

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So I just say, kudos, man.

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I just hope that that spirit, that ethic, if you will,

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infiltrates our entire church

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and our entire country because it's needed desperately.

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– I hope that you guys talk about

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these hard issues at your church,

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whether it's smaller groups.

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And I know you do, you have counseling.

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You have -- we have to deal with it.

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And that's what I wanted to do in this documentary,

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because you know how many

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broken Korn fans are out there?

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I mean, so many people came to Korn

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because our singer sing about pain.

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We sang about child abuse.

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We sing about, you know, just parental issues,

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bullying, all this stuff,

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when we first started especially.

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And these kids, man, back in the day,

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they would run to us and just tell us like

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we make them want to keep living.

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We just did 700 meet and greets on Zoom during COVID.

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And every single -- we did it for over a month,

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like 20 people a night for three nights a week.

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Every single night there was adults saying,

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"Like, I wouldn't have this family,

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these kids run around behind me

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if it wasn't for you guys.

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I had a gun to my head and just thank you.

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I just wanted to tell you thank you for

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I have my family because your music helped me."

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And so it's just --

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– "Your music helped me"?

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Korn isn't known is uplifting and inspiring,

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encouraging Christian music. Or is it?

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– If you read the Psalms where David's

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getting chased by, you know, and what is he saying?

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He's saying, my eyes are, you would know,

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you're a pastor, but his eyes are swollen from tears

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and all the stuff. I'm in despair, everything.

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– Laments, it's the laments.

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– Right. He's lamenting.

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Korn has done that in music.

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And yeah, there's some FU's and, you know,

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and, you know, you treated me this way.

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But it's a step into healing for these people.

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Maybe it's not a complete healing and forgiveness

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and into God's, you know, all that.

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But God has used it massively

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as a step to keep people living.

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– What was the tipping point for you spiritually

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when you when you came to Christ, whatever,

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I don't even know what nomenclature you prefer?

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When you came to Christ, you got converted,

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you got saved, you felt the love of God.

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Was there a unique tipping point moment

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or did you just gradually

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grow into relationship with Christ?

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– It was a handful of things.

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It was, okay, I was desperate

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for freedom from addiction because

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I ended up going overseas.

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I was such an addict that I took

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eight balls of meth with me.

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I ran out of drugs in Europe and I had my dealer

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send me three more eight balls of meth

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inside of these candles that he made.

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And I've watched them be FedExed.

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And it was when FedEx tracking

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early 2000's was starting to take off.

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And I watched them get sent to me.

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I thought I was -- I was paranoid that

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I was going to get caught

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and they're going to find them in the scanners,

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you know, because I'm watching a show on Netflix

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about border security and I'm like,

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"Wow, that's how they do it.

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They could have easily found my drugs."

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So that's when I got to the bottom

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and I needed to get -- I needed to get free.

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And so once I went to rehabs

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and AA and NA, all that stuff,

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I got some some hope and wisdom from those places,

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but I couldn't stop.

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So what I needed from Christ was -- or church people.

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I don't even think Christ, like I couldn't.

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If God is real, you can't know until you die.

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So but I go around these church people

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because I want them to help me get sober.

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And then they introduced me to Christ,

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that He's living and He'll come and live

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inside of you and He'll reveal that to you.

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And if you stay seeking Him, three things:

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going to church, fellowshipping with other Christians

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and learning from them and reading your Bible.

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That's what the pastor told me to do,

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if I kept doing that,

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Christ would be revealed to me.

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And Jesus said, "If you love me."

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– Go to church, interact with other believers,

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read your Bible? And you did those three things?

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– I did those three things.

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I was like, OK, if you crazy Ned Flanders Christians

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are lying to me, I'm going to find out in a month.

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But if not, I've actually found out

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the meaning of life through it, because

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Christ revealed Himself to me.

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Jesus said, "If you love me,

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that He would manifest himself to you."

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In John 14 He said He would manifest himself.

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He manifest Himself to me. And once --

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So, OK, that's --I needed freedom from addiction

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from Him, but what I didn't know was

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that the whole reason for living is knowing Him.

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And so once my addiction was done, I was like,

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"Oh my gosh, I didn't know this dream

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could come into my life,

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that I didn't even have a desire to.

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I didn't know I could know Jesus like this."

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All the love that crushed my heart,

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the relationships that didn't work,

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Jesus would never do that to me.

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He would never leave me.

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He would never crush my heart like that,

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even if I treated Him bad,

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like I did the girls in the past,

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my ex-wife when she left me and that other girl.

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If I did worse to Jesus, He would never leave.

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He would never abandon my heart like that.

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I was like, so addicted to staying with Him

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and working through this process with Him.

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It's like -- and people were like,

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"Man, this is just a phase.

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You're coming off of meth. You know?

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You're trading one addiction for another.

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You know, it's not going to stay."

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And I'm like, "You don't understand,

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I found the meaning of life."

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So I started getting Jesus tattooed and scriptures.

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I was like, I'll show them, you know?

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Matthew 11:28, that's the scripture that

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this guy sent it to me I went off meth,

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right before I went to church he was like,

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"I felt like Jesus gave me this scripture for you.

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I've never done this before, but I'm giving it to you.

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Don't think I'm weird, please.

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It says Matthew 11:28, 'Come to me, '

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Jesus says, "All who are weary and burdened

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and I will give you rest.'"

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And I just was like that's the scripture

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that got me and started opening up the life, you know?

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– That's amazing.

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What I love, there's so many things I love

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about you and love about your story.

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One of the things is just how

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you still are finding a way

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to represent Jesus inside of your occupation.

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You know, if you can figure out a way

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to represent Jews inside of a metal band

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and actually change the band, in many ways.

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You guys pray for people at your concerts even, right?

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– I do. – You do?

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– Yeah. – And that's why some people

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were getting on those Zoom calls

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and talking about those things with you.

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I think all of us could figure out

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how to represent Christ and whatever job we are,

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and the world would probably be a lot more different

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and our lives would be different.

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And I want to ask you to make a little shift right now.

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Are you up for a challenge, Brian Head Welch?

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– Always up for a challenge. – Are you up for a challenge?

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– Yes. – All right.

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First of all, you said you're very emotional.

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Is that -- I never asked you about your tattoos

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with the teardrops and stuff on the side of your eyes.

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Is that coming out of --

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– I got those laser tattoo removal.

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Look, they're almost gone

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because people thought I killed two people.

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You know, teardrops mean murder.

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I'm just joking. They were -- They were too --

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I didn't like them on the side or whatever.

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– Well, I like them.

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– Thank you. Well, I'm not putting them back.

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– It fits your ethic. That's good.

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– Thanks. – But let's play preaching time.

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I'm going to give you like

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three one-minute sermon opportunities.

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Can you do it? Are you up for that opportunity?

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– Of course.

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– OK, so let's say you're preaching right now.

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You got one minute to talk to everybody

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who's dealing with addiction.

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Preach to them right now. What do you say?

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– In that camera? – Sure.

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– Or to you? – That camera.

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– So there is a healthy addiction you can have

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and that's a love that comes from another realm.

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Once you touch that, and I mean,

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I would just say my story,

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once you touch that love, you kind of

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put down these little --

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like those other addictions seem like little toys.

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It's like your child, you have these toys

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and your parents come in and bring you

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this big truck and you're like,

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you just throw those toys away

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and you go to the truck.

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It's like that when you meet Christ,

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these little addictions, you throw them away

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and you just follow this big great, forgiving,

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loving God that doesn't judge you,

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that just as mercy, nothing but mercy for you,

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kindness, and the power to give you

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to overcome all of your addictions.

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And it happened to me.

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I mean, if Jesus can set a crazy rock star

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with all the drugs that I wanted.

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I had all the money that I wanted

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to buy all the drugs that I wanted.

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If you could set me free from drugs,

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then obviously, your addictions are nothing to Him.

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It's simple.

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– Ok, now give a minute sermon to those of us

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who some of us may be millionaires

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or be on top of the world in terms of world success,

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but the self-loathing and the sense of rejection,

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the need to measure up is

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a never-ending CD in the back of their mind.

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What do you preach to us?

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– Oh, man. You put me on the spot now.

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– Yeah.

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– I mean, Paul said in the New Testament

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that he has learned the secret of being

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content in life with having --

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with being in want and being in need and having plenty.

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So I look at that as him saying like

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he's been rich and he's been poor

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and he's found the secret of being content

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in both situations.

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And that secret is in the next verse

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where he says, "I can do all things

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through Christ who strengthens me."

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And in my life, I was definitely

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living on couches before Korn.

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I was eating Top Ramen.

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I was definitely homeless.

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And I lived both of those realms.

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I lived poor, then I got rich without Christ.

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I was a poor alcoholic, Top Ramen eaten poor guy.

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And I was a rich rock star without Christ.

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And I was a failure at both.

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Once I met Christ, I was a multimillionaire

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and I didn't have that contentment.

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When I had all the money, when I was walking with Christ,

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I ended up with all these emotional problems

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and I lost all my money.

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Then I went back to the poor realm,

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not really poor or homeless,

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but I lost all my millions and ended up in bankruptcy.

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The Lord showed me that He took care of me

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in my need, just like Paul said,

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and He brought me contentment

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when I was in lack during the bankruptcy.

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Then He started piling back onto me the riches

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and giving me blessings,

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financial blessings, and everything.

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And now I'm learning all of this other stuff

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with investments and everything and walk

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and being content with the riches.

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So it's like He teaches you

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how to be in charge of your finances

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and He teaches you that He'll take care

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of you when you don't have finances.

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It's just He's everything, man.

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And and I would just say, anybody rich out there --

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This is longer than a minute.

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Anybody that's rich and successful out there

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and you're trying to measure up, man,

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just surrender, just surrender,

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and you give your heart to Christ

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and let Him hold you, because that stuff is --

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it can be here today and gone tomorrow.

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– Ok, one minute preaching

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to people who are single parents.

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– Ok, so I'm the classic example

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of a parent who loved their kids,

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but massively made mistakes before Jesus

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and after Jesus.

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I would just say to you single parents that

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you can do it and God is with you.

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God says He's a father to the fatherless,

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so that also means He can be like

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a mother to the motherless.

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And my daughter grew up without her mother

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and God was right there helping us along the way.

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He was right there healing my mistakes

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and leading us to the right people.

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And even when my daughter got rebellious

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because of wounds from her childhood,

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He helped me be strong enough to use tough love

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to get her into a therapeutic boarding school

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to make her life just flourish and heal.

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And so every step of the way, I would say to you,

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single parent, I know the pain.

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I know how hard it is, but do everything

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you can do to train your children up with God

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so that they don't depart from it.

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And even if it's tough love before they're 18,

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don't let them go. Don't let them go.

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Do everything you can to show them love,

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but also to be there.

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Because children, they need discipline

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and they need to know that you're going

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to step out there and stop them

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if they're going the wrong way.

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Because something, even if they're like

00:21:35

they're yelling that they hate you,

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deep down in their souls they want to see that

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because a parent that lets kids do whatever they want,

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it shows them that --

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– They're not worth fighting for.

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– Yeah, they're not worth fighting for.

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Maybe they do love them,

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but they're not worth fighting for.

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So there's something in the soul of children

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that need that and want that.

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That's what it says in the Bible, that,

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you know, it's healthy to discipline out of love,

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it's very important.

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So don't give up again.

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Again, a messy rock star, single parent,

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messed so many things up with my child.

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And she is doing amazing,

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working for a nonprofit, 22 years old,

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and I'm so proud of her.

00:22:14

So keep your head up.

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– Is there anything you want to talk about

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that I didn't prompt you with

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or that we haven't talked about yet?

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– Off the top of my head?

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– And you can say no too. That's fine.

00:22:34

Yeah, I would.

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I would just want to say

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there's a lot of people in big churches and small,

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you know, especially big churches

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where they come and, you know, they hear about God

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and they hear about what God can do.

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And sometimes in small churches or big churches,

00:22:53

you can get lost in the fact that,

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and I know your heart is the same way.

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That God has given us these churches

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and this message in the Bible is about

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one on one relationship that we don't have,

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we don't go to God through the pastor.

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We don't come to see a sermon.

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We don't -- we're not living our relationship

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through a spiritual leader.

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The churches are meant to be a spiritual

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filling station for us to go home

00:23:24

and spend every day with our relationship with God.

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He wants us to have a personal relationship with God

00:23:29

and to build us up in that relationship.

00:23:32

And I love what you guys do here.

00:23:35

And because it's just all about

00:23:39

building that relationship with, of course,

00:23:41

with the church body, that's so important.

00:23:43

I wouldn't got I wouldn't have got clean

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if I didn't have that church body and friends.

00:23:47

But seriously, Jesus, He squashed all that stuff

00:23:52

where we've got to go through man.

00:23:53

You go directly to Jesus, spent time with at home,

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talk to Him on your way to work.

00:23:59

And I talked to Him in the bathroom.

00:24:00

I talked to Him on my way to work,

00:24:02

going shopping, in my car all the time,

00:24:04

when I wake up, when I go to bed.

00:24:05

He's always there and He wants that relationship.

00:24:08

So He died for a relationship. Don't abandon it.

00:24:10

And I'm talking to myself, too,

00:24:12

because I get lazy, too, sometimes spiritually.

00:24:14

So that's my number one message

00:24:16

is intimacy with God a relationship.

00:24:19

That's what He died for.

00:24:22

– Brian, thanks for pouring into us today.

00:24:24

Man, it's just been great being your friend,

00:24:28

and I look forward to seeing what God's going

00:24:30

to do with your life

00:24:31

and in our friendship of the future.

00:24:33

Thanks, brother.

00:24:34

– Yes, I love you, man. – I love you, too.

00:24:41

– If you'd like another dive on Brian,

00:24:43

I had him on my podcast called The Aggressive Life.

00:24:46

You can go to Crossroads.net/podcasts

00:24:49

and you can find that Aggressive Life

00:24:50

podcast with Brian Walsh.

00:24:52

All these things that we do, we do to help you

00:24:55

and help me get to a new place spiritually

00:24:58

and sense God's presence in our life.

00:25:01

And that happens in part because people

00:25:04

are faithful to God with the blessings

00:25:06

that He's given us, we're givers in return.

00:25:09

You can give right now if you want

00:25:10

to support our church and help us

00:25:12

get God's word into your heart, my heart

00:25:15

at Crossroads.net/give.

00:25:17

Some of us kind of just throw some money here and there,

00:25:19

others of us are very disciplined about it

00:25:21

and we actually tithe,

00:25:22

give 10% of our money to the work of God.

00:25:25

If you want to try that out, it's actually

00:25:26

a test that God encouraged us to take.

00:25:29

It's called a Tithe Test and you can do that with us.

00:25:31

If you try this for 90 days

00:25:33

and you don't see God meet you where you are,

00:25:36

we will refund you all of that money.

00:25:37

Go to Crossroads.net/tithetest.

00:25:42

Well, now we're going to come with God through music.

00:25:44

It's another way for us to come to Him

00:25:46

with our hearts and our minds

00:25:47

and have a connection with Him.

00:25:49

So let's worship him together right now.

00:25:54

– Hi, everybody, my name is Josh,

00:25:56

and I get the joy, the pleasure

00:25:59

of being able to lead you in worship.

00:26:01

And one of the things that as a Christ follower

00:26:04

that I know to be true is that the story,

00:26:07

God's story is one of redemption.

00:26:09

So Genesis to Revelation, front to back of the Bible,

00:26:13

it's God makes something awesome,

00:26:15

something totally terrible happens,

00:26:17

and then God redeems it.

00:26:19

And that is the arc of my faith.

00:26:22

High, very highs, very high highs, very low lows.

00:26:26

And then the Lord comes in and He brings it up.

00:26:28

And there's a reality that sometimes

00:26:32

in those low places, it is hard to see

00:26:35

the redemption happening.

00:26:37

It's hard to see the work of God in the low places.

00:26:39

And there's a promise in scripture in Joel 2:25:

00:26:49

Now, where I live in Cincinnati,

00:26:51

we just got over this swarm of cicadas

00:26:56

and it's not quite locusts destroying everything.

00:26:59

But with those cicadas, I mean, it was

00:27:02

sometimes cacophonous volume,

00:27:04

like you would walk out your door

00:27:06

and it would be so loud you could not hear anything.

00:27:09

And that's the reality of some of those low places,

00:27:11

like the brokenness and the loneliness that we feel,

00:27:15

the desperation, it just gets cacophonous.

00:27:18

And Jesus says, "I'm going to step in

00:27:20

and I'm going to shut that noise off

00:27:22

and I'm going to bring you redemption."

00:27:24

So this song that we're going to sing

00:27:25

is just -- it's a declaration of that.

00:27:27

It's saying, yeah, from front to back,

00:27:30

God, you are about the business of redemption.

00:27:32

So I just invite you to sing this with us.

00:29:46

– That's a pretty crazy thing to say,

00:29:49

hallelujah for the Cross, hallelujah for the grave,

00:29:52

but that's the reality for us.

00:29:54

In order for redemption to happen in our lives,

00:29:57

Jesus goes, "Great. I'm going to give my life for you,

00:29:59

which is an incredible thing.

00:30:01

So this next part of this song says,

00:30:03

God, you keep hope alive.

00:30:06

And I'll say for myself, lately, things have not been --

00:30:13

Hope has not been alive lately. I'll just say that.

00:30:16

And the reality is I have to go back,

00:30:20

so I have to go back to this idea of redemption.

00:30:22

God is constantly redeeming.

00:30:24

So if I know that to be true,

00:30:25

the hopelessness I feel right now is not void.

00:30:29

There is a continuum.

00:30:31

And in that continuum of redemption happening,

00:30:34

I'm going to find some more hope.

00:30:36

And so we can say, honestly, yes, God,

00:30:37

you keep hope alive, even though right now

00:30:40

I don't see it, I'm going to choose to trust

00:30:43

and believe that hope is rising.

00:30:46

Hope is swelling up as a part of

00:30:48

your arc of redemption, so sing this.

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If you're in a place where you like, "Yeah, that's me."

00:30:53

Join with me. Join with me.

00:30:56

Go, "Yeah, I don't feel it, but I'm going to trust it.

00:30:58

I'm going to believe that it's there.

00:31:00

Because you see, God, you keep hope alive in my marriage.

00:31:03

You keep hope alive with my daughter.

00:31:05

You keep hope alive in my job,

00:31:07

in my sickness, in my finances.

00:31:10

God, you keep hope alive in my sexuality.

00:31:12

You keep hope alive in my talents, my gifts,

00:31:18

my job, my vocation, all of those things,

00:31:20

You keep hope alive, God."

00:31:22

So sing that as a declaration of something

00:31:25

I want to aspire to.

00:33:36

– Man, it's great being with you today.

00:33:39

I hope you got a lot out of Brian Head Welsh, my buddy.

00:33:41

Man, he is a deep well for sure.

00:33:44

Hey, you can have stuff like this every single week.

00:33:46

We want to help you. We want to partner with you.

00:33:48

Whatever your stuff might be.

00:33:50

If you're dealing with addiction,

00:33:51

if you're dealing with loneliness, hopelessness,

00:33:54

you can go to Crossroads.net/getstarted.

00:33:57

We want to be in your life.

00:33:59

We'd love for you to be incorporated

00:34:00

inside of our community.

00:34:02

Next week, we've got another guy named David Mahan

00:34:05

who's coming in and he's got

00:34:06

some really deep stuff for us.

00:34:08

He's going to talk about

00:34:10

what would Jesus do about public policy?

00:34:13

We'll see you next week. Don't miss it.

	Special Guest To The Stage	0:40
	Welcome	0:00
	Interview	1:12
	More From Brian Welch	24:41
	Redemption Song	25:53
	You Keep Hope Alive	29:45
	Get Started	33:37
	Next Week on Crossroads	34:01
	God Can Use Metal Music	9:40
	I Ran Out of Drugs	10:44
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