Jesus loves you. A lot. But just like every great relationship, there will be challenges as you grow together. Come and explore the 3 types of people who rarely step up to that challenge. And the simple way not to be one of them.

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    - Hey, welcome to Crossroads.
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    I'm Andy and I'm so glad that you've joined us today.
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    You're actually joining us for our second week
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    studying a book in the Bible called Mark.
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    Specifically, we're going to look at
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    how lines, circles, and Jesus all closely relate
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    and come together in this book.
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    But first, we're actually going to spend
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    this next bit of time worshiping together.
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    This is a time of singing songs about God and to Him.
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    But we also believe that worship
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    isn't confined to singing songs or just singing songs
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    in one room at one time together.
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    One of the beautiful things that I'm learning right now
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    is that we don't all have to be in the same place
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    physically to experience God together.
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    Now, a couple of weekends ago,
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    I actually experienced this personally.
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    I was out solo camping and I got a text
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    from a Crossroads community member in Nepal.
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    It was a video of his son and his friends performing
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    a Crossroads music original worshiping in Nepal.
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    And I had a beautiful moment in the middle of the woods,
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    being led in worship by a member of our church,
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    literally on the other side of the world.
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    So wherever you are right now, this is a chance
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    for you to have a few minutes with
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    the God who loves you more than you can know.
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    - You may not know it, but what you just said
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    is Scripture, it's not new words created in 2024.
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    You just said Scripture.
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    Our our team wrote this song right from a scripture.
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    It's been near and dear to my heart for many years
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    because I needed to choose to believe it.
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    So it became an anchor point for me.
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    It's James 1:17 in the Bible.
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    It says every good gift and every perfect gift
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    comes from above, it comes down from the Father of lights.
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    What you're in right now, online and in this room,
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    you're surrounded by many people who believe that.
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    I believe that, that every good thing in my life
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    has a source to it,
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    and that source is the Creator of all. It's God.
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    You may not believe that. You're in the right place.
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    You came in here wanting more,
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    and you're surrounded by people who would say,
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    "I found more. He's a good God, a provider,
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    a good source of all good things."
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    And as I just watch in the room,
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    I can't see you online, forgive me.
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    But as I just watch in the room, I could see
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    some of you seeing those words in that first song
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    or the second song, or even that song just now,
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    Anything That's Good and some of you just lit up with a smile.
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    Because for you today, it's easy to say,
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    "Oh, yeah, I remember.
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    I remember God providing me this.
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    I remember the friend who invited me here.
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    I remember the loved one I'm standing next to.
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    I remember my first child,
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    or I remember acing that test," whatever it may be.
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    Some of your faces lit up as we sing this.
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    Others of you still chose to sing,
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    even without a smile on your face,
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    because where you're at in life right now
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    says this is a hard choice to say He's good.
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    It's a hard choice to show up and believe in a good God.
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    When I'm in that space, I need to hear stories.
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    I need to hear stories of those who are around me
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    saying, "Here's where He's been good in my life."
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    Because their stories remind me of
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    how He's been good in my own life.
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    They help me see it.
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    It's one of the benefits of us gathering together
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    as we get to share stories.
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    And so one of the best places we collect those stories
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    as a church is out on our base camp.
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    Anybody been to camps before? There you go.
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    So we have this space out at camp
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    where we just can collect your raw, uh, unedited story.
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    We call them dumper stories.
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    Why do we call it a dumper?
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    Well, because it's an outhouse.
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    And why would we put a recording in an outhouse
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    for people to tell their very personal story?
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    Well, because we're Crossroads.
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    And so there's a literal outhouse.
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    It's not a functional outhouse. Take it easy.
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    But it's a literal old outhouse.
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    And people can go in there any moment that
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    they want out of camp and pick up
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    this old military grade phone and speak into it,
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    their raw, in the moment response
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    to seeing God's breakthrough and God's goodness.
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    And so whether it's with a smile today or a stern choice,
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    I want you to hear some stories of God's breakthrough.
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    We're going to keep worshiping.
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    You're going to hear a couple of these stories
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    collected in that, stories of breakthrough,
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    stories of God's goodness.
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    - This is my fourth camp.
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    Two Man Camps, a Couples Camp, and now Father Son Camp.
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    I came out of Couples Camp seeing the power of God
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    move in my marriage, and I brought my son
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    to Father Son Camp hoping to see that same change,
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    but knowing that life with my son
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    has been hard as raising a son is.
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    And letting go of baggage so that
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    we can continue to grow as God wants us to.
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    And I found out during solitude that
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    my seven year old is carrying and sees his baggage.
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    And it gave me the realization that my expectations for myself,
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    my expectations for him, are outlandish,
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    but am now realizing that by holding on to my baggage,
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    I'm forcing him to hold on to his too.
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    And we both need to let our baggage go
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    so that we can help each other to grow better
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    as father and son and as followers of Christ.
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    And that's my big takeaway from this weekend.
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    - I wasn't expecting to have a breakthrough in the woods.
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    We were asked to close our eyes
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    and to let God just tell us what we needed.
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    When I closed my eyes, I saw my daughter's headstone,
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    and I heard, "She is Mine." And I lost it.
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    I cried so hard because I realized that
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    I have been so angry at God.
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    I kept hearing, "She is Mine, she is Mine."
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    And I realized that my daughter was always His
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    and the short amount of time that I had her heartbeat
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    and I had her body, and I had so much love for her
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    that she was never mine. She was always His.
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    So that's what I'm leaving at camp: fear and anger.
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    And it is such a burden off of my chest and my heart.
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    I'm so grateful to have this opportunity.
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    - I'm in Puerto Rico interacting with
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    one of the partners that we have
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    that we partner with with Go Trips.
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    And this house was recently completed
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    by a bunch of Crossroads folks.
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    For this house we were the first one in,
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    we're the last one out working here
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    since a natural disaster a couple of years ago.
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    And I'll tell you what, that's part of why we do Go Trips,
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    because people's lives get changed,
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    not just on the other side of the world
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    or outside of America, but actually in your life.
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    Hey, why don't you try something new?
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    Why don't you try getting outside your comfort zone?
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    Why don't you try blessing somebody else,
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    giving them a hand up in life?
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    In the process, you just might find
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    your life change as well. Go someplace.
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    - Now, like BT just said, life change happens
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    when we go and when we move.
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    And if you're interested in that life change
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    for yourself and being a part of life change
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    for someone else across the globe, you can check out
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    all of our Go Trips at Crossroads.net/trips.
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    Now, I have experienced this in South Africa,
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    in India, in Nicaragua, and actually this year
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    I'm going to experience it fresh again in Puerto Rico.
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    Would love for you to join me
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    and the Anywhere team this December.
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    I mean, it's December in Puerto Rico.
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    Come on, find a trip that works for you and go.
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    Now part of what you just heard in worship
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    are stories of life change from real people
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    who experienced God at one of our camps.
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    Now, what are camps?
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    They are unique Crossroads events
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    hosted on our land in Ohio,
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    specifically designed to take you to a new place
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    relationally and spiritually.
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    We have over nine different camp experiences,
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    so whether you're a man, woman, couple, student,
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    veteran, senior who can't sleep on the ground anymore,
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    hey, we have something for you.
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    So wherever you live, we want you to come
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    and experience this for yourself.
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    You can find out more information and sign up
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    for a camp at Crossroads.net/camps.
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    Now, we've been talking a lot about life change,
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    and life change happens through going
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    and experiencing something new with God,
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    but it can also happen through the practice
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    of living generously, specifically financially,
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    through the tithe.
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    What we mean by that is that a lot of people
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    in our community practice the biblical concept
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    of the tithe by giving 10% of their gross income
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    back to their local church.
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    And if that sounds crazy, hey, stick with me here.
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    Twice in our history, in October of '19
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    and October of 2022, we did a teaching series
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    called The Blessed Life that explains
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    why we believe what we believe about God and money
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    and, man, what happens when we put God first in our lives,
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    as evidenced by how we manage our money,
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    that He shows up in our lives in profound ways.
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    Most of the people who experienced The Blessed Life
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    said it was some of the most refreshing,
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    invigorating, biblical teaching they've ever heard,
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    and it was about money.
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    Here's a story of one person whose life
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    was impacted by The Blessed Life.
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    - My name is Arturo Minera. You can call me Arturo.
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    I didn't grow up in church.
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    I grew up in Miami, Florida.
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    My family moved up here when I was ten years old.
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    My parents separated shortly after moving up here,
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    but it was at that point where now my mom
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    being a single mom with her four kids,
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    giving, when it was explained to me,
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    the youth pastors would have these sermons
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    about here's how you give when you don't have money to give.
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    The foundation of how to give back for me
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    wasn't financial because just contextually,
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    I didn't have always a dollar to give
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    in that bucket that some churches would pass around.
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    It was giving of time and talent.
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    So I would get involved in like the worship team.
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    I had already, in my head, I was already thinking,
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    "I am giving. What do I need to do with my money
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    that I'm not already giving with my time?"
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    My rationale was God's giving me money. Great.
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    Now I can do something with that,
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    pay my bills and everything.
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    But God, you're still getting 10% of me,
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    so that should be enough."
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    That was the posture in my heart for a good amount of years.
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    It was just a thing you had to do.
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    So what changed for me then was a couple things.
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    Going back to my wife and I, on the verge of getting married.
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    We went church shopping for a year.
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    We landed on Crossroads.
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    And wouldn't you know it, the first teaching
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    that we arrived to was The Blessed Life series.
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    The way I remembered it, it gave us this analogy
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    of this rainforest somewhere that he stepped into,
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    and it was almost magical in how here
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    you're constantly being poured on with rain, with dews,
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    and you step out and it's almost like magic.
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    And it was through that language of like,
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    man, there's there's an invitation God gives us
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    to live in this blessed life.
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    And it's kind of silly how humanity tends to,
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    for whatever reason, step out of it.
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    It was a great foundation for my wife and I
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    for a lot of things, because as newlyweds,
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    as new parents, and then when it comes to giving,
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    it was just a fresh look at here's what would happen
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    if you considered giving as much as you could back to God.
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    And then when we step into it, we've seen the fruits
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    and we've seen it in all parts of our life.
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    Why would we give that up? Why would we stop now?
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    We decided to start giving, and some of those things
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    that we started to see was more peace.
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    The first couple of weeks were very rocky.
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    I could really only say a couple weeks because
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    peace of knowing that God covered us financially,
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    God covered us at home.
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    There's a lot of personal things
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    that we were very concerned about.
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    As soon as we started giving with this changed mindset,
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    this changed perspective, willing, changed perspective,
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    we just saw a lot of fights that could have happened,
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    just not, kind of aligned us in a way that
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    when we did things, we kind of sensed that
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    we weren't doing it alone.
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    So what was important to me was, and for my wife,
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    was knowing that being part of a community
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    that was all in on giving, financially giving in these ways
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    was something that made my wife and I feel
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    more comfortable about doing together.
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    I see now God is showing up with another thing
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    that I didn't trust.
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    I didn't --I didn't know who to trust with my finances.
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    I didn't know who to trust with this whole concept of giving.
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    I put my trust in Him and once again,
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    surprise, surprise, He shows up.
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    - Hey, I know Arturo and that is what happens
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    when someone truly puts God first in their life,
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    as evidenced not just by where they spend their time,
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    but where they spend their money.
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    And Arturo found things like
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    peace that surpasses understanding.
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    He and his wife drew closer together.
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    He got answers from God about questions that he had.
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    In short, he saw God's blessings in his life.
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    And did you hear what he said at the end?
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    The fact that he was part of a community of people
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    who were committed to giving in this way,
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    encouraged him and his wife.
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    And that's true. That's what happens.
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    You are surrounded by people who put God first
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    in their finances, and God regularly uses those people
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    to change the world through Crossroads.
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    Just last week, over 40,000 people heard
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    the gospel preached at our Super Bowl of Preaching.
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    This is faithful people who tithe and give
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    and make that and so much more possible.
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    And for anyone who tithes at Crossroads,
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    we have something called the Blue Team.
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    And if that's you, I want to encourage you to sign up
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    and join the literally thousands of people
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    who are already on The Blue Team.
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    The Blue Team is for self-declared tithers,
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    so we take your word on it.
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    We don't check your w-2s or anything.
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    And you don't have to be wealthy.
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    Crossroads doesn't have any corporate sponsors,
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    just normal, faithful people.
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    So when you sign up, you'll be put on the list
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    of people who regularly get special information
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    about what's happening behind the scenes
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    here at Crossroads, and specifically
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    who are asked to pray for those things
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    and the mission that God has given us.
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    Every year around this time, we also send out
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    an annual Blue Team sticker,
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    and we're about to do that this year.
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    So if you are a tither, then please sign up ASAP
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    at crossroads.net/BlueTeam so we can get that to you
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    and have you on the list.
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    And if that's not you, hey, please hear me here,
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    you are still welcome.
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    We know we have people at all different phases
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    of their spiritual journey, and we are so glad about that.
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    And you can still support the work that God
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    is doing here at Crossroads at Crossroads.net/give.
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    Now, just as God invites us into a blessed life,
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    He invites us into life with Him.
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    We're in our second week of studying the book of Mark
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    together, and Alli is diving deep into
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    how Jesus invites us into relationship.
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    - Some of us see lines as divisive,
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    limiting and restrictive.
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    Others see lines and think, "Sweet,
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    now we know exactly where to go and what to do."
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    In their purest form, lines provide clarity
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    about the space between two points.
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    What if I told you that Jesus
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    was really good at drawing lines?
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    He was all about challenging people to something better.
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    Jesus constantly challenges people
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    to step over the line to receive more.
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    When we choose to step over the line Jesus draws,
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    we are stepping into more of his goodness.
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    Circles, on the other hand, they're just lines that curve.
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    A circle shows us where
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    the energy is concentrated in the middle.
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    A circle surrounds and identifies what is valued.
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    Everyone wants to feel valued and known.
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    All throughout history, Jesus has been weaponized
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    or minimized by people who want Him
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    to fit into their circle, club, or the in-crowd.
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    Jesus drew His own circle, and it turns out
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    it was bigger than anyone could have ever expected.
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    Whether you resonate more with lines or circles,
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    Jesus calls you to step into
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    more of His concentrated goodness.
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    Jesus wants all of us to step over the line
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    into His giant circle.
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    - Hey, everybody. I'm Alli.
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    It's great to be with you this weekend at Crossroads.
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    And we are in the Gospel of Mark, looking for
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    the fullest picture of Jesus that we can possibly get.
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    Why is this so important?
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    Whenever I read the Gospels, I'm always asking God,
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    "Make sure I see the real Jesus
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    because I want to know Him, which helps me love Him."
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    And it actually also helps us understand
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    what might He be doing in our life every single day.
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    And today we're going to talk about that
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    a little bit in depth in the context of relationship.
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    What kind of relationship is Jesus after
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    for you and for me in our life every single day?
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    I think there's a line that He is inviting all of us
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    to step across into a very specific
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    kind of relationship with Him.
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    Some of us haven't seen that line.
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    Some of us are hiding from that line.
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    But I think some of us step across a line
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    into a brand new place with Him.
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    Let me pray for us.
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    Would You speak to us personally about
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    where we are with You, what what our relationships are like?
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    And I'm asking that You would invite
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    every single person who's present with us here
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    or online to step into a new space with You.
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    In Jesus's name, Amen.
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    Well, we've got -- we've been using this concept
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    of circles and lines to think about
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    some of the complexities of Jesus, who He is,
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    what His character is like, what He does in our life.
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    And through the gospel of Mark, undoubtedly,
  • 00:33:32
    when we look at how Jesus relates to other people,
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    we see both of these things.
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    Some of us love the idea of Jesus being circled Jesus,
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    you know, inviting everybody in Jesus,
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    all up close, come closer, come near everybody.
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    And He is absolutely that.
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    And He also draws some lines.
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    And as I look at the Gospel of Mark, I see this theme
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    that shows me how Jesus invited everyone into His circle.
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    Mark writes about a very specific word that
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    as you're reading the book with us,
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    I hope you are in the app.
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    I'm reading Mark through the app. I
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    hope you are as well.
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    Mark repeatedly talks about crowds, crowds,
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    crowds, crowds everywhere Jesus goes
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    it seems that there's a crowd gathering around Him.
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    And this theme goes all throughout the gospel.
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    And to me, it's indicative of just how many times
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    Jesus welcomed in, invited in, and let Himself
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    be around a whole bunch of people.
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    And when He did that, He didn't draw a lot of lines.
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    And these weren't just any crowds.
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    They were kind of like a crowd that I was in
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    maybe a year, year and a half ago, I took my girls
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    and we went to an FC Cincinnati soccer game one night.
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    A friend gave us tickets,
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    and right as we approached the stadium,
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    this huge thunderstorm broke open.
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    I mean, like enormous.
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    And right as we're going up the steps.
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    Now, some of you get caught in the rain
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    and your skin looks dewy and you get beachy waves.
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    I look like my cat when he falls in the bathtub.
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    So this -- I'm super distracted.
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    We're walking up the stairs and the rain is pouring down,
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    and I don't really realize
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    until it's like 10 seconds too late,
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    we just join the stream of people,
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    that they had cleared the seats.
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    So everyone in the stadium was crushed into
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    the circle where all the concessions and bathrooms are.
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    And it was like scary crowd, like,
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    nobody can move, people in your face, on your back.
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    I'm trying to keep a hold of my girls.
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    I mean, it is a literal crush of people kind of crowd.
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    And we were like that for about an hour.
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    And you could tell the crowd wanted something.
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    They really wanted that game to start.
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    They wanted to get back to their seats.
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    And nobody, nobody wanted to be
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    right up in each other's faces.
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    But we all were there for the same reason.
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    That's exactly what some of the crowds were like around Jesus.
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    I think sometimes when I read the word crowds,
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    I just think like, "Oh, it was a couple dozen people."
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    No, it was that kind of crowd. It was a crushing crowd.
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    People were very interested in being near Him
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    because of how Jesus drew circles in a crowd,
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    because of how He invited people into His space.
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    Jesus was very freely interacting in the crowd.
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    All through Mark, whenever you see that word,
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    watch what He does.
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    Jesus never once rejects, belittles, demeans a crowd.
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    He actually engages very freely with them.
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    Jesus meets needs in the crowd,
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    like real practical needs.
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    We get stories all the way through this gospel
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    of Jesus doing things like feeding people dinner,
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    like, literally thousands of people
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    He provides food for in a crowd.
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    He heals lots of people.
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    That's why people wanted to get close to Him,
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    because they wanted to touch Him.
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    They wanted to be close to Him.
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    They wanted to drag their friends to Him in a crowd.
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    And Jesus was patient and welcoming and inviting.
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    He regularly taught the crowd because
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    He got super bummed out that they didn't
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    have good leaders who were giving them
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    regular encouragement and instruction.
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    Jesus seemed to kind of love a crowd.
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    He certainly loved the people in the crowd very, very freely.
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    Now, I think this is one of the things that
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    we do pretty well in this community.
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    I think that's why crowds can sometimes gather at Crossroads.
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    Because this has been my experience.
  • 00:37:23
    I've been in this community 23 years, 23 years.
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    I have never once felt unwelcome
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    or I have never, ever, even, even when I knew
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    not one person here, I've never thought that
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    anyone was after something from me.
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    I've genuinely felt invited into many things over the years.
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    That's exactly how Jesus interacted
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    with people in the crowd.
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    And if that's real, you know, we talk about camps
  • 00:37:49
    and trips a lot around here, and if you decide
  • 00:37:52
    to go on one of those, no one's going to check
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    to see if you've been baptized
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    or what your theological convictions are.
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    You know, Jesus didn't do that with people either.
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    When he was in mass numbers of people,
  • 00:38:04
    He invited them closer to actually meet real needs,
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    to actually engage exactly where their lives were
  • 00:38:12
    at that time, and try to be a blessing to them in the crowd.
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    He generously gave what actually mattered to people.
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    He never represented a crowd as a terrible thing,
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    but it is a one dimensional thing.
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    The kind of relationship you can have with somebody
  • 00:38:27
    who's in a crowd is not complete, right?
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    You might see what's true. It's just not complete.
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    And I think about that whenever I speak,
  • 00:38:38
    whenever I teach, I just think,
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    I really strive to be authentically myself,
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    like to talk like I would to my friends or my coworkers,
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    to say what's honest and real about my life
  • 00:38:50
    and about my relationship with Jesus.
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    I really do strive to do that.
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    But at the same time, if you came home with me,
  • 00:38:59
    you would see something entirely different. Right?
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    You would see a bunch of new layers.
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    If you came home with me you would see how I talk to my kids.
  • 00:39:08
    You would see how we did family meeting on Sunday night.
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    You might wonder why there was Yahtzee
  • 00:39:12
    in the middle of my kitchen table 365 days a year.
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    You might hear what's on my Spotify playlist
  • 00:39:20
    or how I do my calendar.
  • 00:39:21
    You might wonder who I spend time with, you know,
  • 00:39:25
    marked out, like, some of my friendships
  • 00:39:27
    and how I engage those.
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    There's just layers to all of us.
  • 00:39:30
    There's layers of complexity to who you are
  • 00:39:33
    and how you put your life together that you could learn
  • 00:39:36
    if we went home with each other,
  • 00:39:38
    if we engaged in each other's lives that way.
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    Anybody wondering why I have Yahtzee
  • 00:39:42
    in the middle of my kitchen table?
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    Yeah, I threw that one out there, and I thought,
  • 00:39:48
    "I wonder if they're wonder why I have Yahtzee."
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    It's not just our favorite game, but I've noticed
  • 00:39:52
    it's exactly the right length,
  • 00:39:53
    pro tip for anybody who has teenagers,
  • 00:39:55
    it's exactly the right length of game
  • 00:39:57
    to get my kids to say yes to.
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    Like it only takes like eight minutes
  • 00:40:02
    to play a game of Yahtzee.
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    So it's how I get my my teenagers to stick around
  • 00:40:06
    the kitchen a little longer.
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    "Oh, why don't you just sit down?
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    Let's play a quick game of Yahtzee."
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    It's like, "Okay, fine."
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    And they sit and then we can talk.
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    It like holds them in the kitchen longer,
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    so it's my thing. I bet you --
  • 00:40:17
    I'll bet you I've played 20 games of Yahtzee this week.
  • 00:40:20
    This week alone. Promise you, not making it up.
  • 00:40:22
    I have four kids, so what does that work out to?
  • 00:40:24
    You know, five games a kid. That's probably about right.
  • 00:40:27
    Anyway, we have these layers of things about us
  • 00:40:31
    that make us who we are and how we live our life.
  • 00:40:34
    And while Jesus engaged lovingly and freely in a crowd,
  • 00:40:40
    giving what was real and true and good,
  • 00:40:42
    it's also true that you can't get
  • 00:40:45
    the complete picture of who He is in that setting.
  • 00:40:48
    It's exactly the same as it would be for you or for me.
  • 00:40:52
    Jesus cannot be fully known in a crowd,
  • 00:40:55
    and throughout the book of Mark, we see this line drawn
  • 00:41:00
    between the crowd and another group of people in His life.
  • 00:41:04
    And as a matter of fact, if you read very carefully,
  • 00:41:07
    you're going to notice that the crowd
  • 00:41:08
    is often mentioned right alongside these people,
  • 00:41:11
    almost like a contrast to them.
  • 00:41:13
    And so Jesus draws this line between the crowd
  • 00:41:17
    and another group who seems to actually know Him.
  • 00:41:21
    And that group of people is always referred to
  • 00:41:24
    distinctly as His disciples, His disciples.
  • 00:41:29
    Now that word is very specific.
  • 00:41:30
    These guys were also His friends.
  • 00:41:33
    They were also His traveling companions.
  • 00:41:35
    They were also likely people He had known
  • 00:41:37
    for a lot of his life, but they were His disciples.
  • 00:41:42
    And that word appears in contrast and next to
  • 00:41:46
    what Jesus would do in a crowd
  • 00:41:49
    versus what He would do with His group of disciples.
  • 00:41:52
    This kind of relationship that the Bible calls disciple
  • 00:41:56
    is a very important and specific distinction.
  • 00:41:59
    As a matter of fact, it exists across a certain line.
  • 00:42:05
    And I believe that that's the line
  • 00:42:07
    that Jesus is interested in each of us crossing,
  • 00:42:11
    where we come out of the crowd of people
  • 00:42:13
    that He loves, that He gives to,
  • 00:42:15
    that He welcomes, that He wants,
  • 00:42:17
    and we cross a line, and now we're a disciple.
  • 00:42:22
    And these two groups are very distinctly different,
  • 00:42:24
    and they get different aspects of who Jesus is,
  • 00:42:27
    and they know him at different levels.
  • 00:42:29
    This is a critical kind of relationship,
  • 00:42:32
    one, so much so, that it's exactly what Jesus said
  • 00:42:35
    in His final words here on earth before --
  • 00:42:38
    After He had been raised from the dead
  • 00:42:40
    and He had interacted with His disciples,
  • 00:42:43
    here's what He says to them, His final words:
  • 00:43:02
    Jesus said, go to the nations, go to the crowds,
  • 00:43:06
    go, gather crowds, you're probably going to need to.
  • 00:43:09
    But also what we're looking for is making disciples.
  • 00:43:12
    We're looking for the people in the crowd
  • 00:43:15
    who will step up and out and cross the line
  • 00:43:18
    into a relationship that's much deeper,
  • 00:43:21
    where you get, what did He say?
  • 00:43:23
    Taught everything that I've commanded You,
  • 00:43:26
    and surely I am with you.
  • 00:43:28
    This is the relationship where you're with Jesus.
  • 00:43:31
    You're going where He goes. You're doing what He does.
  • 00:43:34
    You're you're learning His ways,
  • 00:43:36
    the way that you and I would
  • 00:43:37
    if we followed each other around for the day.
  • 00:43:41
    Disciples follow up close.
  • 00:43:43
    They see the rhythm. They see the heart.
  • 00:43:45
    They get exposed to how Jesus prayed
  • 00:43:47
    and connected with His Father, where He went,
  • 00:43:50
    what His mission was, why He was doing it that way.
  • 00:43:52
    All of that stuff is the life of a disciple.
  • 00:43:56
    And can you catch a glimpse of it in the crowd?
  • 00:43:59
    Sure, you absolutely can.
  • 00:44:00
    But you have to be careful, because sometimes
  • 00:44:03
    what you see of someone in the crowd,
  • 00:44:05
    you can even misinterpret, right?
  • 00:44:08
    You can see a thing in the crowd,
  • 00:44:10
    and you can assume it's about one thing.
  • 00:44:12
    And then when you get to know the person,
  • 00:44:14
    you realize, "Oh, that's what that really was."
  • 00:44:18
    And it's exactly the same with Jesus.
  • 00:44:20
    So we can glimpse Him in the crowd
  • 00:44:22
    and what we see is true, it's just incomplete.
  • 00:44:25
    And our knowledge, our deep knowledge of Him,
  • 00:44:27
    is waiting in this relationship called disciple.
  • 00:44:32
    So if that relationship exists and it's good, you know,
  • 00:44:38
    if your goal is to know as much of God
  • 00:44:40
    as you probably possibly could,
  • 00:44:43
    why aren't we all doing it, is the question.
  • 00:44:48
    And to understand ourselves a little bit better,
  • 00:44:51
    I want to share with you something that happened
  • 00:44:53
    when I was in seminary.
  • 00:44:54
    I was taking a class that was actually partly online,
  • 00:44:58
    and I had to turn in a paper.
  • 00:45:00
    And there was like a portal where we had to upload it
  • 00:45:02
    and check like, yes, this is my original work,
  • 00:45:04
    and submit it, little submit button.
  • 00:45:06
    And so I go to turn in this paper
  • 00:45:08
    and there's a two question quiz.
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    It's like you must, you know, must answer
  • 00:45:12
    in order for the submit button to, you know, pop up.
  • 00:45:15
    And so the two questions were:
  • 00:45:18
    how much time did you spend on this paper?
  • 00:45:21
    And the multiple choice was 0 to 4 hours,
  • 00:45:23
    five to 9, or 10 plus. And you had to pick one.
  • 00:45:27
    And then the second question was a lot more interesting.
  • 00:45:32
    The first option, now I want you to imagine
  • 00:45:35
    what might you do if you saw this?
  • 00:45:38
    First option was: I'll take an A right now, thanks.
  • 00:45:44
    The second option was: I'll take what I've truly earned.
  • 00:45:51
    And the third option was: I don't know what this is,
  • 00:45:54
    but have a great weekend!
  • 00:45:57
    And you had to pick one in order to submit the paper.
  • 00:46:00
    So I chose one. I submit the paper.
  • 00:46:03
    I come back into the class on Monday morning
  • 00:46:05
    only to learn that that was absolutely real.
  • 00:46:09
    That question was absolutely real.
  • 00:46:12
    You either picked the I'll take an A, thanks,
  • 00:46:15
    and your grade was recorded.
  • 00:46:18
    Or he was going to grade your paper
  • 00:46:19
    for whatever you were actually going to get.
  • 00:46:22
    You all, the class exploded, absolutely exploded.
  • 00:46:26
    And we were to discuss this openly,
  • 00:46:29
    like with each other,
  • 00:46:30
    what we were thinking, what we were feeling.
  • 00:46:33
    And most people were going like,
  • 00:46:34
    "I had no idea that that was real. What?
  • 00:46:38
    I've never seen that before."
  • 00:46:40
    Some people were just flat out annoyed.
  • 00:46:42
    "I put ten freaking hours.
  • 00:46:44
    You mean to tell me if you put half an hour into that paper,
  • 00:46:47
    you could have gotten an A on it if you picked that option?"
  • 00:46:49
    Yep. Absolutely right. You definitely could have.
  • 00:46:53
    It was utterly real. And it was a total setup.
  • 00:46:58
    It was a total setup by our professor to set us up
  • 00:47:02
    for our reaction to this life altering relationship
  • 00:47:08
    that we are offered in Christ.
  • 00:47:12
    When we're told there's a way that
  • 00:47:16
    your sin can be utterly paid for,
  • 00:47:18
    and you can walk freely into the power
  • 00:47:21
    and the goodness and the life of God
  • 00:47:23
    in the Kingdom of God,
  • 00:47:24
    no matter what you've done in the past.
  • 00:47:28
    Sometimes our responses are a little complicated. Yes?
  • 00:47:32
    Like, unexpectedly complicated.
  • 00:47:34
    And that was what the discussion forum was all about,
  • 00:47:37
    because he was trying as an object lesson to go,
  • 00:47:39
    like, "How did you really feel about the fact
  • 00:47:41
    that you didn't pick that option
  • 00:47:43
    and your neighbor got an A? You know?"
  • 00:47:45
    I mean, it was -- it was infuriating to people.
  • 00:47:47
    And I got to tell you, the reason it was so explosive
  • 00:47:53
    is because only three people out of the entire class
  • 00:47:57
    picked I'll take an A, thanks. Three.
  • 00:48:03
    That's incredible. Three people picked that option.
  • 00:48:09
    I happen to be one of them, by the way. Ha, ha, ha.
  • 00:48:13
    I was like, yeah --
  • 00:48:14
    I think it was really like my straightforwardness.
  • 00:48:18
    Well, that's what it says.
  • 00:48:20
    I just, okay, yeah, I'll take it.
  • 00:48:24
    If that's real, I'm in. You know?
  • 00:48:26
    I'm pretty, I'm like a very straightforward person.
  • 00:48:29
    And I just went on the off chance that's real,
  • 00:48:33
    I'll go for it.
  • 00:48:34
    Three of us, three of us.
  • 00:48:37
    And I stayed pretty quiet because
  • 00:48:39
    we were really being hated on.
  • 00:48:41
    People were all up in their feelings about this.
  • 00:48:46
    And it's amazing how complicated,
  • 00:48:50
    how complex that question can be to answer.
  • 00:48:53
    But it all boiled down to one thing.
  • 00:48:55
    As I listened to the discussion that was going on
  • 00:48:57
    in the class what it boiled down to that day
  • 00:49:00
    is that everybody had their own version
  • 00:49:02
    of what they thought they might lose if they pick that option.
  • 00:49:08
    I might lose self-respect.
  • 00:49:10
    I might lose respect of the professor.
  • 00:49:13
    What if this is some weird test of character
  • 00:49:16
    and I get tossed out of seminary?
  • 00:49:18
    Like people were crazy.
  • 00:49:19
    It was all kinds of crazy explanations.
  • 00:49:23
    And it all boiled down to if you didn't pick that option,
  • 00:49:27
    it was because you had some version of something
  • 00:49:30
    you thought you would lose if you did.
  • 00:49:33
    Now, I want you to listen to the line
  • 00:49:36
    that Jesus draws between the crowd and the disciples.
  • 00:49:40
    It comes from Mark chapter eight.
  • 00:50:05
    Not only do we see Him again making this distinction
  • 00:50:08
    between the crowd and disciples,
  • 00:50:11
    but He's calling to the crowd saying,
  • 00:50:13
    "Do you want to come? Do you want to come?
  • 00:50:16
    But there's just one thing you should know."
  • 00:50:19
    And he gives us the heart of the reason
  • 00:50:22
    why we get complicated around this answer,
  • 00:50:25
    because we don't want to lose something.
  • 00:50:29
    And from the vantage point of the crowd,
  • 00:50:32
    it looks like we might.
  • 00:50:33
    When we think about crossing the line
  • 00:50:35
    into a deeper life with Jesus and really following Him,
  • 00:50:39
    maybe the heart of our objection,
  • 00:50:41
    no matter which person is answering,
  • 00:50:43
    the heart of the objection maybe boils down to:
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    what if I lose something?
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    What if I'm not willing to risk what it looks like
  • 00:50:55
    I might lose in this equation of crossing that line?
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    And the life of a disciple is really risk
  • 00:51:02
    after risk after risk to step across the line
  • 00:51:05
    and find out is it real? Is He good?
  • 00:51:11
    Is He there? Did He mean it?
  • 00:51:15
    Do His words about money or sex or friendship,
  • 00:51:21
    do they work in my life?
  • 00:51:23
    Do I find more life if I try to move that direction?
  • 00:51:27
    And the life of a disciple is asking that
  • 00:51:29
    and crossing the line over and over and over again.
  • 00:51:32
    But the truth is, from the vantage point of the crowd,
  • 00:51:35
    it looks like every time we cross the line,
  • 00:51:38
    we might just lose something.
  • 00:51:41
    And so we stay in the crowd, we stay in the crowd,
  • 00:51:45
    and we never experience the upside of a life with Jesus
  • 00:51:48
    because we we can't know it until we cross the line.
  • 00:51:53
    And we just have a limited view in the crowd.
  • 00:51:55
    And I think there's three places that we can be
  • 00:51:57
    in our life that make it especially difficult,
  • 00:51:59
    three different places you could be tonight,
  • 00:52:04
    that you could be in one of these places.
  • 00:52:06
    And I just got to tell you, I feel you.
  • 00:52:08
    I have been in all three of the places
  • 00:52:10
    that we're about to discuss, and we see them all
  • 00:52:14
    also in the book of Mark.
  • 00:52:16
    And when you're in these places, the line,
  • 00:52:19
    crossing the line to try to come into
  • 00:52:22
    a closer relationship with Jesus
  • 00:52:24
    doesn't look as good as it sounds.
  • 00:52:26
    And one of those places is when you're really, really low,
  • 00:52:30
    when you are down low. And I'm a realist.
  • 00:52:35
    I know that there's people in here tonight
  • 00:52:36
    who would say they're in a season or a day
  • 00:52:38
    or a week where they're just feeling low.
  • 00:52:41
    There was a woman in the book of Mark, chapter five,
  • 00:52:44
    who was at the lowest point of her life,
  • 00:52:46
    and she goes into the crowd around Jesus.
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    Here's what it says:
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    Now, this is a good crowd story, right?
  • 00:53:23
    Even her being in the crowd that day was a big move.
  • 00:53:26
    If you had been this woman in that culture,
  • 00:53:30
    you would have spent over a decade
  • 00:53:31
    being declared unclean, which means
  • 00:53:34
    you're outside the normal rhythms of every aspect
  • 00:53:38
    of life in the Jewish culture and community.
  • 00:53:40
    She was, for all practical purposes,
  • 00:53:44
    a pretty much on the outskirts, or an outcast
  • 00:53:47
    of her culture and her community.
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    And so she probably wasn't even supposed
  • 00:53:51
    to be in the crowd that day.
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    So I want you to picture an FC kind of crowd,
  • 00:53:55
    like, a crushing crowd, and she takes the low place,
  • 00:53:58
    does some kind of army crawl, and comes up to Jesus
  • 00:54:02
    and touches the hem of His cloak.
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    And lo and behold, Jesus, like He does so many times,
  • 00:54:10
    actually gives something amazing in the crowd.
  • 00:54:14
    He heals her. Her body is healed.
  • 00:54:17
    She actually gets what she thought she came for.
  • 00:54:20
    And the crowd offered her the cover
  • 00:54:22
    she wanted to do it, right?
  • 00:54:23
    She didn't want to take the risk because it was a risk,
  • 00:54:26
    make no mistake, it was a risk for her to be there.
  • 00:54:29
    And the crowd gave her just the cover she needed,
  • 00:54:31
    not to do what? Experience more rejection,
  • 00:54:36
    more disappointment.
  • 00:54:41
    Over and over and over again
  • 00:54:43
    she had been to doctors, that's what it said.
  • 00:54:45
    She had been repeatedly disappointed,
  • 00:54:48
    not healed and rejected.
  • 00:54:49
    And the crowd, was offering her the cover to not take a risk.
  • 00:54:53
    And she comes up to Jesus and touches the hem of His cloak
  • 00:54:56
    and actually gets something amazing.
  • 00:55:01
    I think this woman would have been,
  • 00:55:02
    on the quiz in my class, I think she might have been
  • 00:55:06
    the one that said, "I don't know what this is,
  • 00:55:08
    but have a good weekend."
  • 00:55:10
    Like, can't even see the line.
  • 00:55:13
    Can't even imagine that there's more for her.
  • 00:55:16
    But Jesus knew there was more.
  • 00:55:18
    So listen to what He does next. It's so interesting.
  • 00:55:21
    She was probably happy to slink away,
  • 00:55:24
    but Jesus, huh-uh. No, sir. Here's what He says.
  • 00:55:28
    He pushes on His disciples. "Who? I just felt that.
  • 00:55:31
    What's going on here? Who did that? Something happened."
  • 00:55:35
    And they're like, "Dude, people are pressing against you.
  • 00:55:38
    What do you mean?"
  • 00:55:39
    And he's, like, insistent.
  • 00:55:41
    And here's what it says:
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    She crossed the line. She crossed the line.
  • 00:55:55
    She came up out of the crowd, trembling with fear.
  • 00:55:59
    When you are low in your life, it takes trembling
  • 00:56:02
    with fear to drag yourself to Jesus.
  • 00:56:05
    And I think the real risk here is hope.
  • 00:56:09
    Yeah, sure,
  • 00:56:11
    the crowd prevented her from having to risk rejection.
  • 00:56:13
    But even deeper than that, even deeper than that,
  • 00:56:17
    would she consider hoping again, hoping for a life
  • 00:56:21
    that she hadn't had for more than 12 years?
  • 00:56:25
    And she finally crosses the line.
  • 00:56:27
    And here's what happens.
  • 00:56:37
    Jesus had far more for her than a life in the shadows.
  • 00:56:41
    That day when he pulled her up,
  • 00:56:43
    when she came and fell at his feet and told that story,
  • 00:56:45
    you know what would have happened?
  • 00:56:47
    Way more than her physical healing.
  • 00:56:49
    She would have gotten her family back, her community back.
  • 00:56:51
    She would have been able to go to temple again.
  • 00:56:53
    She would have been able to completely rejoin her life
  • 00:56:56
    by doing that kind of testimony that was authenticated
  • 00:57:00
    by Jesus in front of that crowd, and He knew that.
  • 00:57:03
    He wanted that for her, but she had to cross the line.
  • 00:57:08
    She slunk up and got the little bit that she came for,
  • 00:57:11
    and Jesus was like, "No, there's more.
  • 00:57:13
    I want you to cross the line."
  • 00:57:17
    So if you're here today
  • 00:57:18
    and you're in that low place in your life, I get it.
  • 00:57:22
    I actually get how it feels
  • 00:57:24
    to not want to get out of bed in the morning.
  • 00:57:26
    I get what it means to look, try to look into your future,
  • 00:57:30
    and all you see is like a black curtain
  • 00:57:32
    in front of your face. Can't picture a thing.
  • 00:57:35
    I understand.
  • 00:57:38
    I'm only asking you to entertain the possibility
  • 00:57:41
    that that view will never change if you stay in the crowd.
  • 00:57:45
    The only way, the only way you get
  • 00:57:48
    a different vantage point on the life that Jesus offers
  • 00:57:52
    is to cross the line
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    into actually following Him as a disciple.
  • 00:57:58
    Okay, okay. So down low is one place
  • 00:58:02
    that's really hard to cross a line from.
  • 00:58:04
    And the next place is up high. Up high.
  • 00:58:10
    When you're sitting up high,
  • 00:58:11
    it's hard to even see there is a line.
  • 00:58:14
    There's a group of people all the way
  • 00:58:15
    through the gospels that Jesus speaks to,
  • 00:58:17
    nd it's His harshest words, and they are the people
  • 00:58:20
    who were sitting very high up in the culture of Jesus's day.
  • 00:58:23
    They were the religious teachers.
  • 00:58:25
    They were the religious leaders, teachers of the law,
  • 00:58:28
    scribes, Pharisees, all of those words
  • 00:58:30
    would kind of encapsulate this sort of ruling class.
  • 00:58:35
    Now their culture was totally wrapped around
  • 00:58:37
    their faith, which ours is not.
  • 00:58:39
    And so maybe some of these people in your life
  • 00:58:41
    are like, I don't know, social media influencers
  • 00:58:45
    that manage to get a million followers, right?
  • 00:58:47
    And so now they have, they've got advantages.
  • 00:58:49
    They're sitting at the top of something.
  • 00:58:51
    Maybe they're just leaders or beautiful people
  • 00:58:53
    or wealthy people, whatever.
  • 00:58:54
    Maybe you just exist in a crowd and you're like,
  • 00:58:56
    "I don't know, that guy just always seems
  • 00:58:58
    to come out on top."
  • 00:58:59
    You know, there's just some people that are like that.
  • 00:59:02
    And if you're in a place where you are constantly up, high,
  • 00:59:08
    this is a very, very hard place to cross the line
  • 00:59:11
    and become a disciple of Jesus.
  • 00:59:13
    Now why would that be?
  • 00:59:15
    Let's read Mark 12. Jesus says this:
  • 00:59:39
    Jesus says, "The crowd's working for them.
  • 00:59:44
    Why in the world would you step out of the crowd
  • 00:59:47
    when every time you step in it, you get the place of honor?
  • 00:59:50
    You're the one on top.
  • 00:59:52
    You're the one that gets all the good stuff."
  • 00:59:54
    And it's really hard to see that
  • 00:59:56
    there's a life beyond a line with Jesus,
  • 00:59:59
    that there's actually more good stuff to get.
  • 01:00:02
    That doesn't compute a lot when you spend your life at the top.
  • 01:00:06
    It can be a dangerous place because
  • 01:00:08
    you can't even really imagine that there is a life.
  • 01:00:11
    And frankly, a lot of times when you're
  • 01:00:14
    consistently at the top, you're like, "I earned this."
  • 01:00:20
    These were definitely the people
  • 01:00:22
    in our discussion forum that were going,
  • 01:00:24
    "Like, I put ten hours of work in.
  • 01:00:27
    When he grades my paper, I had better also get an A."
  • 01:00:32
    And the truth is, that's the truth sometimes. Right?
  • 01:00:35
    There are people who ride the top,
  • 01:00:38
    it's just that when you're always up there,
  • 01:00:41
    you lose sight of the line
  • 01:00:43
    that is pretty far down below you.
  • 01:00:46
    And I started thinking about this.
  • 01:00:48
    There are no, like, I want to share another story
  • 01:00:52
    with you from the gospel of Mark,
  • 01:00:53
    where there's some religious leader that finally
  • 01:00:56
    comes to Jesus across the line,
  • 01:00:59
    and there's not one there.
  • 01:01:03
    Most of them never did.
  • 01:01:06
    We get a glimpse of one and one of the other gospels
  • 01:01:08
    who's really compelled toward Jesus,
  • 01:01:11
    and the best he can do is show up at night
  • 01:01:13
    under cover of darkness and start asking some questions.
  • 01:01:16
    And that's good.
  • 01:01:17
    In my book, he probably did end up as a follower,
  • 01:01:19
    maybe he's the one.
  • 01:01:21
    But in any case, we don't have a wonderful story,
  • 01:01:26
    and there's probably a reason why.
  • 01:01:30
    And I started thinking about my most favorite,
  • 01:01:34
    like, followers of Christ that I've known in my life.
  • 01:01:36
    And they had practices. They all have little practices.
  • 01:01:39
    I started to pick this up, I don't know, years ago,
  • 01:01:42
    just again, talking to people,
  • 01:01:44
    knowing them more intimately in their life.
  • 01:01:46
    And I want to share a couple of these with you
  • 01:01:48
    because I think it's a great way to,
  • 01:01:50
    even if you're in an amazing phase of your life,
  • 01:01:53
    which God bless you, I'm happy about it.
  • 01:01:55
    But we just need this, we need these regular rhythms
  • 01:01:59
    of coming down low so we can see the line
  • 01:02:02
    and we can cross over with Jesus
  • 01:02:04
    so we don't go thinking
  • 01:02:05
    we're building our own life at the top. Right?
  • 01:02:08
    And so all, all of my favorite Jesus followers
  • 01:02:11
    have all had these little practices
  • 01:02:13
    that only them and Jesus really ever knew about.
  • 01:02:16
    And they were all little practices of dipping down low.
  • 01:02:21
    One is a woman that I've known
  • 01:02:23
    for many years here at Crossroads.
  • 01:02:25
    She's incredibly gifted in many different ways,
  • 01:02:27
    and she serves on the facilities team
  • 01:02:29
    and she cleans the toilets.
  • 01:02:32
    And I said, "What are you doing?"
  • 01:02:35
    And she's like, "It's good for me to remember
  • 01:02:37
    that I'm not above this. This is my practice.
  • 01:02:40
    This is how I do it." Wow.
  • 01:02:43
    I know somebody else who at her office
  • 01:02:47
    she was a vice president of somewhere or other.
  • 01:02:50
    And her practice was a communal printer
  • 01:02:53
    that was shared around their group,
  • 01:02:55
    and it was always out of paper.
  • 01:02:57
    And nobody knows what toner is.
  • 01:02:58
    Nobody knows what toner is.
  • 01:03:00
    And so she took it upon herself
  • 01:03:02
    to understand how to replace the toner.
  • 01:03:04
    And then every time she passed the printer,
  • 01:03:06
    she would check the paper tray and refill it
  • 01:03:09
    so that the whole group always had a functioning printer.
  • 01:03:12
    Now, a lot of you who are, I don't know, below 35
  • 01:03:16
    are like, "Why would you ever print something? What?"
  • 01:03:20
    Back in the day, we used to print things out
  • 01:03:23
    and it was a real pain when there was no paper in the tray.
  • 01:03:25
    And she took that on for years,
  • 01:03:28
    the vice president of their division
  • 01:03:30
    refilled their toner and paper.
  • 01:03:32
    Not her job, but her regular practice between her and God,
  • 01:03:37
    of a way of coming down, dipping down,
  • 01:03:39
    making sure she wasn't living her life at the top.
  • 01:03:41
    I'll tell you mine.
  • 01:03:44
    Now, if you knew me, if you followed me home,
  • 01:03:46
    you would know that I actually hate to cook.
  • 01:03:50
    I like to bake, but I hate to cook.
  • 01:03:53
    I feel like you either like one or the other.
  • 01:03:54
    Do you think that's true?
  • 01:03:56
    I don't know, maybe there's some crazy people that like both.
  • 01:03:58
    So I like to bake. I hate to cook,
  • 01:04:00
    but I have four kids, family of six,
  • 01:04:01
    so I deal with food all the time.
  • 01:04:04
    I feel like for many, many years, all I do
  • 01:04:06
    is prepare food for other people to eat.
  • 01:04:09
    And so I adopted this practice between me and Jesus
  • 01:04:13
    many, many years ago because I noticed
  • 01:04:15
    my own tendency to take the best piece for myself.
  • 01:04:20
    I'm like, "I'm the one who's been standing here all day.
  • 01:04:23
    I'm going to take the best brownie."
  • 01:04:25
    And pretty soon I adopted this practice with Jesus,
  • 01:04:28
    where every time I plated something, divided something,
  • 01:04:31
    cut something up, shared a serving, every time
  • 01:04:34
    I had to choose pieces to go on people's plates,
  • 01:04:37
    I would choose the lesser of the two.
  • 01:04:41
    And it was just my daily practice with Jesus going,
  • 01:04:44
    "I can dip down.
  • 01:04:46
    Yes, I'm in control of this food situation,
  • 01:04:49
    and I can take the lesser piece."
  • 01:04:52
    So it was just these little practices
  • 01:04:54
    that we can adopt in our life for real,
  • 01:04:56
    that actually, even when everything's fine.
  • 01:04:58
    And again, bless you if you're in a season
  • 01:05:00
    where you're at the top, enjoy it,
  • 01:05:03
    and dip down because you can only see,
  • 01:05:06
    you can only feel the reward of a life in the Kingdom
  • 01:05:10
    when you actually set aside
  • 01:05:14
    the reward of the life that you've got here.
  • 01:05:17
    And so the line becomes a little bit more apparent.
  • 01:05:21
    Okay. So, last place. We've done up high, down low.
  • 01:05:25
    And now the middle, obviously, is the third one.
  • 01:05:31
    Pretty much covers all of us, that's the point.
  • 01:05:35
    But from the middle, the crowd who's in the middle
  • 01:05:41
    struggles to cross the line
  • 01:05:42
    for a completely different reason.
  • 01:05:44
    Now these are regular old, decent people,
  • 01:05:47
    which is almost everybody, right?
  • 01:05:49
    Almost everybody would say, like, "I go to my job,
  • 01:05:52
    I do my schoolwork, I take care of my kids.
  • 01:05:55
    I try to be a decent neighbor.
  • 01:05:56
    Like, I'm a regular, old, decent person."
  • 01:05:59
    I feel like the crowd for this person makes us feel good.
  • 01:06:05
    It makes us feel like we're all in this together.
  • 01:06:08
    There's no line necessary.
  • 01:06:09
    You're good, we're good. We're all good here. Right?
  • 01:06:12
    I actually need you to tell me
  • 01:06:13
    that we're good about something,
  • 01:06:15
    because I made what I now know to be a huge mistake.
  • 01:06:19
    And I just want to feel like we're in this together. Okay?
  • 01:06:22
    So, like, six weeks ago, I got lured into some ads online.
  • 01:06:28
    I feel like they targeted me because I'm in Ohio,
  • 01:06:30
    where it was 92 days in a row of gray and 39 degrees.
  • 01:06:35
    And it was like sunshines and bathing suits.
  • 01:06:39
    And I actually purchased a bathing suit online in January.
  • 01:06:44
    I'm just going to tell you right now,
  • 01:06:45
    it's a big mistake. Do not do it.
  • 01:06:48
    Am I the only one that should not be
  • 01:06:50
    trying on bathing suits in January?
  • 01:06:52
    Can I get a show of hands? Not a great idea.
  • 01:06:55
    And I just feel like that's exactly how the crowd,
  • 01:06:58
    like, I need you to tell me
  • 01:06:59
    that I'm not the only one in the boat.
  • 01:07:02
    We just ate 14 Christmas dinners in a row.
  • 01:07:05
    It's not the month to be buying bathing suits,
  • 01:07:07
    but I feel like I got entrapped.
  • 01:07:09
    I did it, it was a mistake.
  • 01:07:10
    And we're all in that boat together, you know?
  • 01:07:12
    We look at each other and we're like,
  • 01:07:14
    "Um hum, um hum. Bad idea."
  • 01:07:16
    My husband was like, "What are you doing?
  • 01:07:18
    That's a terrible idea."
  • 01:07:19
    Anyway, the crowd makes us feel like,
  • 01:07:23
    whatever it is, we're all in this together.
  • 01:07:25
    We're good.
  • 01:07:26
    Surely God can't want something beyond
  • 01:07:29
    the good things that I'm trying to do
  • 01:07:31
    and my good intentions.
  • 01:07:33
    He can't surely want something beyond that, can He?
  • 01:07:38
    At least I'm not like that guy, jerky superior guy,
  • 01:07:41
    or her who's down low all the time. I'm good.
  • 01:07:46
    Jesus had some words for a crowd
  • 01:07:48
    with a ton of people in the middle,
  • 01:07:50
    a lot of decent folk in this crowd.
  • 01:07:52
    It was his biggest sermon.
  • 01:07:53
    Mixed listeners from all over the place.
  • 01:07:56
    Tons of good, decent folks.
  • 01:07:58
    And here's what He says to them. Take a deep breath.
  • 01:08:24
    I never knew you. I never knew you.
  • 01:08:27
    Guys, knowing Jesus is the privilege of the disciple.
  • 01:08:33
    Knowing Jesus does not happen in the crowd.
  • 01:08:36
    Knowing of Him, knowing about His ways,
  • 01:08:38
    getting a glimpse of Him,
  • 01:08:39
    even receiving good things from Him.
  • 01:08:41
    Yes, all of that, and wonderful.
  • 01:08:43
    And knowing Him to the point where we are able
  • 01:08:48
    to follow Him into what He is doing
  • 01:08:51
    because that's what His Father is doing,
  • 01:08:53
    and that's where the life of the Kingdom of God is.
  • 01:08:55
    That is the privilege of a disciple.
  • 01:08:59
    And that's the kind of relationship that Jesus wants
  • 01:09:01
    with you and with me and with everybody that
  • 01:09:05
    He welcomes and loves into the crowds around Him.
  • 01:09:09
    And I know I joked about saying whether you're down low
  • 01:09:12
    or up high or in the middle, it's pretty much all of us.
  • 01:09:15
    But it is true, because no matter where we sit in our life,
  • 01:09:19
    it's never actually going to be easy because
  • 01:09:21
    it always looks like the potential to lose something.
  • 01:09:26
    Whether it's your own self-respect
  • 01:09:28
    or the reputation of people around you,
  • 01:09:30
    nothing the middle crowd hates better
  • 01:09:32
    than somebody who tries to leave it, right?
  • 01:09:35
    You're a hater. You're too extreme.
  • 01:09:37
    What do you mean, it's unnecessary?
  • 01:09:40
    We're all good here.
  • 01:09:42
    It never looks easy from the vantage point of the crowd,
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    it's always easier to stay, but life as a disciple
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    is crossing that line, not just once,
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    but over and over and over again,
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    and slowly realizing along the way
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    in little snowballing ways that
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    every time you cross it, it's not actually a loss.
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    That your life becomes more and more and more alive,
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    and that the losses you feared,
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    they're actually weirdly gains in the Kingdom of God,
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    that there there is nothing happening
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    that isn't better than it was before.
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    And it's a slow process,
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    and it takes so many times crossing over that line.
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    And I believe that there's a line
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    that God has put in front of you.
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    I believe that every single one of us, from up high,
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    from down low, from somewhere in the middle,
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    that there's an opportunity to cross the line
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    into a greater level of disciple of Jesus.
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    And it might be the very first time
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    that you've ever said, "I want to follow You."
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    And it might be the 175th time.
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    It might be the 12th time on the exact same issue.
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    And you keep hopping over the other side of the line,
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    and now we're going to go back again. That's fine.
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    Jesus offers that to us, free and clear,
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    no matter what has happened in the past.
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    And I want you to think about what that line might be
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    while I give you a visual that I hope encourages you.
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    I had a dream over a decade ago, and I don't remember
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    what I thought about it at the time,
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    but it was so striking to me.
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    It was so encouraging to me that I wrote it down.
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    And for some reason I never forgot it.
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    Do you ever have dreams like that
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    where you just return to them in your mind?
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    Hopefully it's a good one. This is a good one.
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    And I want you to have this visual in your mind
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    as you think about what line you might want to cross
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    into a new space with Jesus.
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    So I was a soldier on a battlefield
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    and night was about to fall.
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    So the battle had kind of died down.
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    And I had come into this space where I wasn't very protected.
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    And so I chose this like little bush that I,
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    I was like, "Oh, this might hide me for the night."
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    And, but I'm going to be exposed.
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    Like, it kind of hid me, but not really.
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    And night fell and I got super stressed,
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    and I knew that the light was going to come up
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    and I was going to be exposed,
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    that I wasn't really hidden where I was.
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    And so I made a decision as the dawn came
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    and I decided the best thing I can do is actually
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    to stand up above the line of sight of this bush,
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    because then maybe, maybe, just maybe,
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    there would be somebody that was in my company
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    of soldiers nearby that could help me.
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    So I'm just going to pop up.
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    That's the best thing I can do.
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    So the dawn comes and I do that,
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    I pop up above the line and I'm terribly nervous.
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    And I think I'm probably going to get shot.
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    And then everybody around me, hundreds of people
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    in the same uniform that I'm in, stand up all around me.
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    I was completely surrounded the entire night
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    by my own soldiers, on my own company and my own team.
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    And I say that to say that from
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    the vantage point of the crowd,
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    it always looks like it's going to be a loss.
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    It always does.
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    And when you choose to cross the line
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    into a new place with Jesus, what you will find
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    is that He will never leave you alone.
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    There will always be people.
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    There will always be people that He surrounds you with
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    and there's life everywhere that you look.
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    And all through the night, I was convinced that
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    what was going to happen was death,
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    and instead what I found was life.
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    And so as I leave you here today,
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    I want you to look for this line.
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    There's a bright orange line.
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    And now, if you're anywhere at any of our sites,
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    you will see a bright orange line when you leave this.
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    Maybe you saw it on your way in.
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    Maybe it wasn't even there.
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    Maybe you weren't looking for it.
  • 01:13:43
    Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't.
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    But you're certainly going to see it on the way out.
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    And if you're at home, find a line.
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    This is a moment for you and God.
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    You got a hardwood floor or a threshold of a doorway,
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    you've got some kind of line around you,
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    and I want you to consider crossing it
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    and having a moment with God where you tell Him,
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    "This is the line I'm crossing." Let me pray for you.
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    Father, thank You for dealing with us so individually.
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    I pray that every heart here would know
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    beyond a shadow of a doubt, the line
  • 01:14:16
    that You're inviting them to step across.
  • 01:14:17
    And I pray that You would give them
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    the courage to cross it.
  • 01:14:23
    And I ask that You would meet them,
  • 01:14:24
    surround them with life. In Jesus's name. Amen.
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    - Jesus is putting lines in front of all of us,
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    and He's inviting us to cross those.
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    He has good things on the other side for you and for me.
  • 01:14:38
    I don't know what area of your life it is,
  • 01:14:40
    if it's your relationships or your marriage
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    or your career or your friends, I don't know,
  • 01:14:44
    but God has good things for you.
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    And I want to encourage you to be bold
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    and take that next step and cross that line.
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    And these moments aren't meant for you to walk through alone.
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    I'd love to connect with you personally
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    and pray for you and help you get connected
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    to others in our Crossroads community.
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    I'd love if you'd email me at
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    Andy.Reider@crossroads.net,
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    let me know what your line is
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    and how I can be praying for you.
  • 01:15:05
    And whether or not you just chose
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    to cross the line and go deeper,
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    there's just a few things I want to put on your radar
  • 01:15:10
    that are meant to help you grow.
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    I'd highly recommend you check out one of our upcoming cohorts.
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    These are asynchronous, meaning you can just do them
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    when it works for you on your own timetable,
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    and you get to do them alongside other people.
  • 01:15:22
    They involve small daily challenges,
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    some weekly input and training,
  • 01:15:25
    and way more to help you get traction
  • 01:15:27
    in a specific area of your life.
  • 01:15:29
    Starting in just a few weeks, we have
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    21 Days to Build a Marriage That You'll Love.
  • 01:15:33
    That's led by my wife, Rachel and I,
  • 01:15:35
    and 21 Days to Dating Better.
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    You can find more information about these
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    and sign up at crossroads.net/cohorts.
  • 01:15:42
    Lastly, the Anywhere team is coming to Orlando
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    alongside Crossroads music
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    and we want to spend the evening with you.
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    We'll enjoy live, worship and music,
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    along with drinks and appetizers throughout the night.
  • 01:15:54
    Most importantly, you'll have the chance
  • 01:15:56
    to meet other community members
  • 01:15:57
    from Crossroads Anywhere in Florida.
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    We cannot wait to see you there!
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    Head to Crossroads.net/Anywhere for more info.
  • 01:16:03
    Hey, thank you for joining us.
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    We'll see you back next week.

Feb 24, 2024 • 1 hr 16 mins 15 sec

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